Thoughts on DRM

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Solo — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:22:23 GMT

Yeah, adding DRM to all "Squirted" tracks is just AWESOME!! Great work! You are JUST LIKE Steve Jobs. Only in shit colored BROWN!

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Perspective — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:33:36 GMT

Let's put this in perspective before we go dumping on Steve-o. Back in 2001 Apple managed to negotiate what was then expansive usage rights from the record companys (5 computer, unlimited iPods, burning rights, etc.). This wasn't done because it was easy or because it was what the record industry wanted. It was consumer friendly and the best deal that could be done at the time.

Flash forward to 2006 and you have Universal demanding 50¢ for each Zune sold and Microsoft countering with 'how about we make that an even buck?'.

Deeds, not words, baby.

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Matt — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:44:16 GMT

Steve Jobs can say what he likes about DRM because it won't make a difference. Which is why he said it, it's another 'Apple are a force for good and MS are EVIIIIIIL!' speech and frankly, it's getting pathetic watching the fanboys rally behind Jobs' blinding flashes of the obvious. Everyone, including Steve 'I can still hang with the cool kids honest!' Jobs, knows that DRM is here to stay until the music industry finds a new way of bending us over and takling us to brown town. And when a new way comes over the hill, Steve Jobs will be the first person to make a device with it built in. Cos guess what? Steve-o was doin party favours for the Music Industry waaaaaaaay before Microsoft joined in. Fact is, no one is going to have the back bone required to stand up to the Media Giants and they probably don't even want to - this way they get a piece of the artistic pie too.

This is just more typical Jobs, writing an open letter to support something that everyone wants but knows will never happen. All this despite the fact that he is indirectly one of it's main proponents.

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Anonymous Tipster — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:44:49 GMT

The power of Steve vs the power of DRM:

http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/02/i-faith-healed-guy-last-night.html

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admin — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:16:26 GMT

davew - different groups w/ in Microsoft. It's a big company with 60k+ employees, so we can't all be doing the same thing :)

And Vista is carrying the p4s torch. it's not a zune thing anymore

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admin — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:07:43 GMT

you love zune. you love this blog. admit it. ;)

and by the way, VISTA is Microsoft's flagship product.

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Moe Tucker — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:49:54 GMT

Hopefully this will end the hair splitting:

Yes, Microsoft still offers Plays for Sure to hardware/software vendors that want it. It just happens that Microsoft as hardware vendor (Zune) / software vendor (Zune Marketplace) didn't want it. In their flagship product, no less.

That's hardly a ringing endorsement.

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Daveworld — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:22:58 GMT

How many Microsoft are there? Microsoft abandoned PFS in favor of a closed system (i.e. iPod/iTunes). Ballmer is on record saying it was not working with PFS because as he puts it, "the whole was not bigger than the sum of the parts."

PlaysForSure is in the hands of the third parties to carry now. Am I wrong?

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admin — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:21:49 GMT

Zune isn't a plays for sure device, you are right. But that still doesn't mean Microsoft ditched plays for sure. zune isn't, because we wanted to make an end-to-end, managed experience. see the distinction there?

And are you *the* Moe Tucker from the VU?

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Moe Tucker — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:15:35 GMT

Last time I checked the Zune was not a Plays-for-Sure device. I didn't say Microsoft ditched Plays-for-Sure, I said they abandoned that system for Zune. Why?

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admin — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:57:46 GMT

Moe, an important distinction to make - *Microsoft* hasn't ditched plays for sure: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/11/

*Microsoft* is still supporting partners w/ Windows Media 11.

And you mis-spelled *favour* ;). I keed, I keed!

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Moe Tucker — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:31:49 GMT

If opening up DRM to third parties is such a good system, why has Microsoft ditched Plays-for-sure in favour of a closed system for Zune?

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Steve Jobs is NOT a populist — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:30:50 GMT

Steve Jobs is a CEO, dedicated to maximizing Apple's profits - period.

Steve Jobs refuses to license FairPlay-DRM to other companies, because Apple gains a competitive advantage from that policy.

Steve Jobs talks about DRM-free music, knowing that the recording industry will reject his proposal.

Steve Jobs talks about DRM-free music, to distract attention away from the fact that the company continues to refuse to license FairPlay-DRM to other companies.

Apple's refusal to license FairPlay-DRM is getting a lot of attention in Europe. Steve Jobs desperately wants to change the subject, so that iPod/iTunes can continue to operate in a closed-propietary manner.

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Zuneless — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:50:11 GMT

TomT said:

I may be wrong, but I suspect that Jobs' primary goal is to shift the discussion away from Apple's lame excuse for refusing to license their Fairplay-DRM to other companies.

You got it, you're wrong.

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Franco — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:13:55 GMT

get over it DRM is here to stay, and frankly it makes sense. if you dont want DRM, buy a CD. Jobs is just a populist.