Music, culture, and the inside scoop from Cesar Menendez,
a Microsoft employee working on Zune - Microsoft's new music project.

December 18, 2007

Firmware Update 2.3

Zune will be issuing a firmware update today. There are no new features in this update, but it does address some issues we’re reading about in the forums. Specifically the battery issue affecting a small percentage of Zune 30/80 GB users - I posted about this last week in case you missed it. In addition to the battery issue, this update provides some performance improvements:

  • Improved device recognition
  • Improved stability and reliability on sync (both wirelessly and while connected to a PC).

After today, your device firmware will be running 2.3. Hope everybody had a great weekend (and Monday!)

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Firmware Update 2.3

Branhower

Does anyone know if it will fix the duplication problem?

Jonathan Sundy

Does this address the issue where certain songs will re-sync to the device EVERY TIME you sync?

I have about 200 songs that re-sync to the device everytime I connect it and I have no clue why.

Khidr

Does this address the issue where there is no auto-playlist feature?  ;)

Thanks for being so proactive in keeping things running smoothly!  

Zune.AdamEntity.Com

Cesar Menendez recently posted this Dec 18th regarding the new Firmware Update 2.3 expectations:Zune will be issuing a firmware update today. There are no new features in this update, but it does address some issues we’re reading about in the forums.

Jaxim

Thanks Cesar and Zune team.

Hopefully firmware update 2.4 and a software update aren't too far off in the future so we regain some of the lost features (i.e. editing meta tags of MULTIPLE songs) and gain the most desired features (i.e. Zune as a external harddrive).

Ricardo Dawkins

@Jonathan and Branhower

check the official forums

http://forums.zune.net/1/54781/ShowPost.aspx#54781

Zyp

Got it! Just went into the Device Settings screen and it was waiting there for me to click Install. I can't wait to enjoy my Zune 30 without that frustrating battery issue. Lately, every time I pick up my Zune I wonder if it'll be dead again, but hopefully no more!

Thanks guys. I'm sure people on the team have been busting their butts to get this out and it's got to be hard with public expectations through the roof about enhancements and such. Keep up the good work and thanks again for not abandoning us Z30 folks in v2!

Dan D

I do assume this means no more firmware updates for this month at least. i predict that the zune team is going to wait to see what other problems/issues arrive out of everyone opening their new sexy zunes at xmas (I get my zune original, and my two brothers get zune originals too and my mom wants my 30) then after the feedback they fix what they deem important along with a new feature or two? hopefully? lol

also good news for me! because this said wireless update sync problem fix/stability i tried it and it didnt work. what i did to fix it is go under administrative tools and one of the zune services was on manual startup so i set it to automatic restarted all the zune services and now it works!!!! sorry for the long post guys haha im pretty pumped now

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Jaxim

GotZune.com article on 2.3 firmware update:

http://gotzune.com/2007/12/firmware-update-23-today

Jonathan Sundy

@Ricardo Dawkins

Thank you for the link.  I tried once to search for a fix (tbh I didn't try that hard) and couldn't come up with the right search terms.

I'll give this a look when I get home from work today.

Gizmodo

The latest Zune firmware update is going to hit today, fixing some of the issues people have been experiencing with their 30 and 80GB players. Among the fixes are "improved device recognition" and "improved stability and reliability on sync", which..

Diego

Thanks for the update, especially improvement on the wireless sync.

Adi R

Glad to hear about this update.

And when should we expect the desktop software update? Or am I the only one having all Podcast subscriptions "unsubscribe" automatically and magically...

elrad

For 2.4, please add a bookmarking feature. You must do this. Audiobooks are useless without it. Thanks for the upgrade!

Nick

Idea: add the "add to quicklist" feature to the now playing menu. So when you're listening to a song, you just middle click and click "add to quicklist," rather than middle click, go to artist, pick album, pick song, add to quicklist.

It just makes sense!

Ricardo Dawkins

@Adi_R

You are not the only one. Count me in.

ey Cesar,the FM presets are gone after you turn off the Zune

kai

Anything about East Asian language support? .... Please?

Freitas15

Cesar, I'm at work now and do not have access to the Forums.

I have a request for your team.

While listening to a song and browsing for another, I would like to have the option to add the new selected song to a "play next" queue.

Zune Zune

Update is Up! :D

Still no East Asian Language Support. :( :(

Why Santa Why!? I'm been good this year!!! :|

DavidMx8

The next firmware will improve shuffle? :) just like last year? jajaa I hoped this year would be diferent, that with each firmware update new features would be seen, like lyric support, or one game (pong was the first on pc's and on the zune!)

Saludos desde mexico

Philippe Majerus

Another update that still shows squares for Japanese artists and tracks...

Having to select one the following artists definitely isn't getting any easier with this release:

□□□□

□□□□□□

□□□□

□□□□

□□□□

And yeah, my old Creative MuVo 128MB could display them just fine.

Now lets look at the font sizes for Windows CE versions (simpler than Vista versions):

MSGOTHIC.TTF (Japanese) 3.97MB

MINGLIU.TTF (Traditional Chinese) 5.98MB

MSSONG.TTF (Simplified Chinese) 2.44MB

GulimChe.TTF (Corean) 5.25MB

...

I bet all special fonts for Japan, China, Korea, Thai, Hebrew, Arabic, ... would take between 20 and 25MB. Does really anyone care for a 25MB footprint to support all artist and tracks titles when the smallest device is 4GB ?

And even if you don't want to push that 25MB to everybody, why not make it optional for those of us who actually do care about the difference between □□□□ and □□□□, like it was on the Portable Media Center ?

Michelle

I am not sure if you can help me... I am trying to update my zune software and I keep getting this error message:

updating zune software with Vista and I keep getting an error oxe0000302...

Installation failed.  Setup must stop because the required package "zune"failed to install.  

DIFXAPP: UninstallDriverPackages failed with error oxe0000302

Module c:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash9b.ocx failed to unregister.  HRESULT - 2147220472  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944938

Any help would be appreciated.... I have tried it many many times.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled macomed a couple of times.  It still won't load.

Tech|noob

Filed under: Portable Audio , Portable Video Heads up, Zunesters . Prepare for improved device recognition

Mikestro12

Will 2.3 also address the issue of certain songs listing with the incorrect artist. I have had this problem since changing to the new software( I have a Zune 30).

say592

Where is the DIVX support that the 360 just got!

Salh Half

YEA!

The 2.3 update made my zunepad response much better. As I thought it should have responsed. Clicking down on the zunepad actually works now! :D

khang

please bring back the 5 stars rating and smart playlist like itunes.

Tech|noob

The latest Zune firmware update is going to hit today, fixing some of the issues people have been experiencing

Eddie

Zune software didnt notify me there was an update when I plugged my Zune in. Does this happen to everyone or just me? If it happens to everyone you guys shouuld have the software notify the user. I had to go to my settings and find it.

Dan D

whats with all the comments saying the same thing like the zune update hits today fixing issues blah blah blah? arent those basically spam because they are just repeating what the post is about?

Bill

I've had a heck of a time with my podcasts unsubscribing all by themselves, anyone else have this issue?

Dragod

I'm still running 1.4 firmware and 1.3 Software... I'm waiting for a software update.

Chris Beames

Hi, Wouldn't it be brilliant if the market place gave you the option to order the case and art with it. So you could get the music instantly and have the CD in the mail. For all those people, like me, that like to have all that stuff. As it stands the Marketplace it the biggest reason I'm ordering a Zune from America, I had a go on my dad's and I have to say I'm impressed, it makes my iPod's wheel seem tedious and the menus seem clumsy. And I love my iPod. Anyway, let me know if that is even possible!

Cheers,

chizz_b@hotmail.com

Wickenburg

@ elrad -

I haven't tried this, but here's a thought.  Adjust the Genre to "Podcast" using this method:

http://www.zunescene.com/zune-podcast-trick/

Good luck!

Fabio

It looks like 2.3 also fix one annoyance. While playing a song, when you clicked on the center of the squircle (to say, select favorite) you would have to wait until the menu timed out to go back to the song. Now, you can press "<-". COOL!

When will you fix the touch not completely turned off when you select so in the Settings?

sportsunit

My zune is syncing worse since the update.  It's now hanging at 0% and giving me an error that my zune may be hung.  That's new.  Now, apparently it can't sync anything.  wow, just wow....

Joseph

Should this update fix the problem with Podcast unsubscribing themselves?

Sudhir Kadkade

I can't update. "Zune software has encountered an unknown error." Error code - 8024402C. Anybody know a workaround this problem?

H.K

Will you schedule a Japanese font(I want Meyryo!!!) to be added?

Dan

Still no unicode after 1 year? A friend loved his Zune 80 but had to return it... To get a sense of how he felt, open your XP notepad, copy the following line of text to it, save your file, close notepad, then open it again.

Zune hid all the chinese

Roan

So I just noticed that the update also added in the ability to unsubscribe from podcasts on the device itself.

Pretty sly on your end, Zune Team, but it's appreciated nonetheless. :)

I'm also noticing the UI is snappier and faster now. Pictures load quicker and everything just feels... Faster?

Thanks for the update.

Alan

I called zune customer service and they said that this update would be fixing the problem other and i are having of the zune randomly restarting.  I downloaded the update, and lo and behold my zune is still randomly restarting. what is going on?

Fred

Hasn't solved any of my wifi sync problems.

Kris

I really hate "ping backs" from other blogs. They should be outright banned as they clutter and ruin the comments.

sjgmoney

Definitely helped me with wireless syncing.  Still having trouble with my Kerio firewall however, can't get it to connect with the firewall up.

Lotheric

Canadian release soon?

bill

It apparently does not fix the random unsubscribing of the podcasts.

Woody56292

cool, now you can unsubscribe from podcasts directly from the device. when you are listening to or watching a podcast, just click the center button and it will pop up with the description and a new option to unsubscribe or resubscribe.

sportsunit

Since when did they start censoring posts on here.  Are we only allowed to post positive things about the zune platform?  Really... I thought this was the one of the main places to go to speak out as a zune user whether it was good or bad.  Please let us know... If so, I will definitely take up the challenge of creating a highly visible, public site and forum dedicated to exposing all the zune's problems and the lack of support received.    

Phil W (canada)

my zune 80 battery still sucks. I now cary my usb cable around with me just in case it needs a charge. ive prolly listened for about 3 hrs this morning and watch about 1hr of video and my battery is half gone.

Ricardo Dawkins

stronger FM reception here. Go job on this point, Team.

The real Nick

I wish it would auotodelete songs that do not have their usage rights anymore. I kind of went crazy with my pass.

Ricardo Dawkins

@Phil

finishes the test until it runs down then talk about suckage.

Battery icon/meters on mp3s and DAPs are not always accurate.

Ricardo Dawkins

@sportsunit

http://forums.zune.net

Use the official forums. there are a lot of complainers like you around there.

Faz

Hey Cesar,

I would love to hear your feedback about three of the biggest ZUNE gripes that keep getting brought up.

1.  Lack of Video Content on the Zune Marketplace.  What are the odds of seeing TV shows and movies up there in 2008?

2.  No backward compatibility with DRM files from stores like Amazon, Napster, and Walmart.    It's a Microsoft format, it's crazy for them to not work on the Zune.

3.  Why doesn't Zune work with Windows Media player (another Microsoft product).  I am sure many people will agree that WMP is a much better, feature rich, music management tool than the current Zune software.

Thanks!

Faz

The search field does not work on this site!

Brosto

Any chance we could have the Zune able to sync using WMP?? It just seems like a waist of money to develop two products that have the same purpose...

ACE

Cesar - you forgot to mention the new podcast feature - http://www.zuneboards.com/content/view/256/1/

jrt6977

i would like to see the zune to be able to download more kinds of video formats

DougK

I do wish that they would  create an update that would add at least 10 more steps to the volume control on both the 30 and 80. # 10 is too low and 11 too high? Easily resolved by adding these steps. Also, I know seeing this is prob more of a hassle than anything else but,......... PLEASE give the Zune80 a parametric eq. I returned my 80 for this reason. I have some hearing issues and need to be able to tweak my settings. Yes, this WAS a deal-breaker for me. And I loved the 80 so much (BUT,....... I still got meself a 30) and want to get it back!!!!

jmmhooper

I am getting same error when I try to update

"Zune software has encountered an unknown error." Error code - 8024402C.

nook

Hey guys. You can now unsubscribe from a podcast from on the Zune itself!!!!

Zune Fan

Why is there still no East Asian Language support? The Zune software deals with East Asian Languages just fine. Come on Microsoft. Please?

AriesZ9

Support for Chinese language is what I really need. I think it is not a tech problem just because of the marketing.

Eddie

@Fabio

It's always been like that..

UrbodyTipsy2691

my biggest problem with the 2.2 update was it changed my artist and songs wrong and it pissed me off so bad i had to fix tons of my songs. i have almost 4,000 songs. also when i sync it will sync at least 20 songs everytime so when i play them on my zune there on there on there a million times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i hope the 2.3 update will fix the duplicated songs because thats my biggest hated issue.

now as far as what zune needs to add is.......

1. videos on marketplace

2. easier video formatting (more flexible)

aka i hate encoding all my videos -.-

3. make it possible to change the font size on main menu cause its too big

4. sends songs to other zunes PERMINATLY as long as they have no license crap such as if u bought them from the marketplace.

5. software for PC needs to be like old software as with the new software you can't edit song names and such worth C***!

what u guys think about my suggestions?

UrbodyTipsy2691

also i forgot with the software for PC when u change the song too many times it freezes.

thats so crappy!!!!

COME ON MICROSOFT!

Bad Penguin 86

The update screwed my zune up three times, ruining the firmware on it and making me restore it again and again. Finally working though.

Sudhir Kadkade

Cesar,

Any news on the "unknown error" 8024402C.

Regards,

Sudhir

Brent Southard

Please, please, PLEASE add bookmarking.  A new media type of Audiobook would also be welcomed.  I just want to turn my Zune off and have it remember where I was when I power back on.  Even the simplest mp3 players do this...

Thanks and keep up the good work!

xo.crissie

i keep getting this error message when i try to update my software to the 2.3 version:

Device was not updated

Error Summary:

An unkown error has occured. For more info, click Web Help.

Error Code: C00D11CD

---please, make it stop!! :(

jmmhooper

Yeah any word on this!!!!

"Zune software has encountered an unknown error." Error code - 8024402C.

cariyawa

I upgraded my zune 30GB from firmware 2.2 to 2.3. Now it freezes when I try to go skip few songs. Any ideas??

Silent-User

@xo.crissie, jmmhooper and cariyawa

All I can say is, there must have been SOMETHING wrong that caused these problems, great care should be taken whilst updating. Loosing the connection whilst an update can be messy for the firmware. This behavior with the Zune is unacceptable from the consumer point of view though, i know im not having these problems but now i AM officially ticked off too :@

Austin

After i got the new 2.3 update my zune won't connect to the computer i plug it in and nothing happens.

SnufflesDOW117

@UrbodyTipsy2691

I agree with all of your suggestions.

My Zune, I love it, but it can be better.

there a few things i would like in the next year. maybe, if when ur zune is connected, u can see your friends(zune.net) and from your zune social tab, send and share music and messages right from your zune.

i think that would be incredible.

i have been thinking for hours, and that is the coolest feature i can think of that no one has mentioned yet.

I really appreciate all the hard work put into the Zune.

Billy

I just got a new 4g zune for christmas and i keep trying to update it from 2.0 to 2.3 and all zune does is freeze

Jess

WTF. The update isn't working on my device. D=

It keeps saying error, and I haven't found a way to fix it. There's no information on the site...

If you know how to fix this contact me at myspace.com/jessychick

--Thanks.

shelbie

I am also having problems updating my zune to 2.3 i keep getting error code C00D11CD.

can anyone help me?

efi

the most important thing that zune need to upgrade is the language pack!!!!!!!!!!

it's sad to get this suck zune without Asian language support!

Why ipod can support Asian language and zune cannot???

How come the zune do not pay more attention to upgrade the language pack???

matt

my 8gb upgraded from 2.2 to 2.3 as well and i am having the same problems as cariyawa. plays fine to start but as soon as i skip it goes to the next song, but it doesn't play and i can't do anything else besides shut it down

Mark Roxberry

For those getting an error updating the firmware:

"Zune software has encountered an unknown error." Error code - 8024402C.

If you're running Vista, disconnect your Zune, run Zune software as Administrator.  I went to Settings > Device > Device Update.  Clicked install, and it worked for me.

Your results may vary.

Mark

Michael

I have updated my firmware and I am still having the problem. I think I may know what is causing it though:

* When I get to work I pull my black Zune 30 out, plug in the headphones and flip the hold switch off.

* At this point the Zune 30 wakes up, the screen shows the battery at about 90%

* I get distracted and don't touch the Zune until after lunch, when I go to start playing music the screen shows the battery at about 20%

So I'm thinking that the screen turns off, but it doesn't auto-sleep after a hold switch initiated wake up with no other activity.

hiddenpower37

What's the chances of actually having the Zune work in both usb mode and mtp mode along with the Zune software to satisfy almost everyone's wants by giving everyone a total of three options that Microsoft created anyway?

Blog Technique de Romelard Fabrice

Microsoft vient de mettre en ligne une nouvelle version du Firmware matériel du Zune. Nous passons donc

kaykay

i am having a problem updating my zune software to 2.3. It is very very frustrating. My error code is C00D1249. I can not even use my zune when I diconnect it. There is a message on the screen telling my to connect it to the computer but again I keep getting this error code. I've had my zune for alomst a year and i've never had this problem. Was buying this thing a mistake????? Someone please help because the webhelp link is useless

jas saul

ERROR C00D11CD

all my friends have the same problem.

fix it pleaseeee.

thanks :]

Paul

@cariyawa

Same problem here, 2.3 will now freeze when I try and skip songs. No fix that I know of except for a hard reset by pressing up and the back button.

G35

Come on MS, it's about time to offer Chinese fonts on the update.

cariyawa

As "Silent-User" has said, it is really important to take  precautions when we are updating firmware. But I really need to emphasis that it is a problem in zune firmware 2.3 it self, because I downgraded my zune to firmware 1.4 and it works fine.

WEN

i have a zune 30GB. after the firmware update, i cant sync pictures anymore. I tried drag and drop, but it doesnt work. is there something that i need to do?

UM

Yes, I also have zune 30. After 2.3 will not sync anything but pictures...even more frustrating..anyone else?

Cody

I need Chinese support! I need Chinese fonts!

julie anderson

i have a zune 8g and have sync'd it before but now when i plug it in the zune software doesnt recognize my zune   ive done all the troubleshooting=called zune was told it was a computer problem-- mind you my usb ports on my laptop are functioning property because my sons ipod sync's w/ no problem  ive had problems before w/ the software and i think thats the problem again. this is highly frustrating as i dont have all day to spend on the phone calling bangladesh or where ever their tech support is.,  is there anyone or anything i can do or is it just a lesson learned and get an ipod?

Jared R

I just updated my firmware from 2.2 to 2.3 and now some somgs will sync to my zune while most of the files that previously would sync to my zune will no longer sync due to the unknown  error code C00D11CD. Does enyone know what the hell is going on with update or how to fix this issue.

kelley m

same issues after 2.3; no sync, not even connecting.

cdubs87

I'm really having issues with not being able to individually edit artist names and other info. For example, I had quite a few songs (around 15) that had "unknown" for the artist name. I tried to change the first song on the list to the correct artist, and it changed all of them! When I went back, it wouldn't allow me to switch them individually, only the entire group at once. I even tried switching to list view so I could see a 1/1 song name to artist list, but when I edit the artist, it simply switches back!!! This is driving me crazy! Please Help! my email is cdubs87@gmail.com if this can be fixed, or please include the old zune 1-1.9 features in the next update! Thank you!

jnols331

i know this software sucks bigtime. it needs a lot of work. i lost 600 songs yesterday when i took auto sync off and deleted from the library. hard to edit, cant choose album art manually, no drop down lists for editing, no ag editing like windows media player. i have to edit in media player. you can do that instead of editing in zune. First edit in windows media players advanced tag editor or find album info features, then you can go into zune when the tags are correct uou can edit in zunes list view.

Suat Ural

(As it is in music) While playing video Zune won't show video specific information such as duration after a while. To see how many minutes left for example one needs to pause the vide