Music, culture, and the inside scoop from Cesar Menendez,
a Microsoft employee working on Zune - Microsoft's new music project.

October 02, 2007

Unveiling

<heads up, folks, this is a long post. To make this easier to read, I’m going to hold until a later post to link to all the images>

Today, Bill Gates, J Allard, and some other folks from the Zune team met with some members of the media to talk about this Holiday’s update to the Zune line. I’m going to keep the PR-ish stuff out of it (for that you can go to the press releases), and just sum up with the facts and the tech specs. Ready?  okletsgo:

Zune Players:

This November, we’re launching new Zune players:  Zune 4GB; Zune 8GB; Zune 80GB; and we’re continuing to sell Zune 30GB (the Zune we started selling last year). All of these devices will have wireless sync, updated wireless sharing, an FM tuner, and a bright LCD color screen to display music, pictures, videos and podcasts. Zune 4, 8, and 80 have a new design, and a touch sensitive button called the Zune Pad. The Zune Pad will let you browse through menus either by brushing or clicking. Some details:

  • Zune 4GB and Zune 8GB come with the Zune Pad, have a 1.8 inch screen, and will come in pink, red, green and black. Zune 4GB will retail for $149.99 and Zune 8GB will retail for $199.99.
    Dimensions of Zune 4GB and Zune 8GB: 3.6 x 1.62 x 0.33; Weight: 1.7oz
  • Zune 80GB has a 3.2 inch screen  and comes with premium headphones, standard. It’s a high quality audio and video experience on the go. Zune 80GB will retail for $249.99
    • Dimensions of Zune 80GB: 4.26 x 2.41 x 0.51; Weight 4.5oz
      • Note that the 3.2 inch screen is 14% larger than Zune 30GB’s 3.0 inch screen, while Zune 80GB is 27% smaller than Zune 30GB
  • And we value and remember our early adopters: everyone who owns or buys a Zune 30GB will automatically get the new features through a firmware update – “firmware update 2.1.” Zune 30GB will continue to retail for 199.99
    • Dimensions of Zune 30GB: 4.43 x 2.47 x 0.65; Weight 5.6oz

And here’s the list of Zune features (IE, features that everyone will get with firmware update 2.1):

  • Wireless sync: wirelessly updates content on the device when it is within range of the PC with the Zune Collection on it, or on the same wireless network.  You can start the sync manually or, when its plugged into  AC power, Sync will automatically start after 1 minute of inactivity. This is so the battery doesn’t get drained by the automatic sync.
  • Expanded wireless send capabilities: you can now keep a track for three plays (we’ve taken any time restrictions out of the equation) you can also send a track  you’ve been sent on to other Zune owners.
  • Lossless playback will be supported on every Zune
  • Podcasting – that is, automatic RSS based subscription to both audio and video podcasts via Zune Marketplace (more on ZMP below).
  • You’ll be able to sync your Vista Media Center TV content to your Zune and watch it on the go.
  • We’re still testing battery life on the new Zune 4GB, 8GB, and 80GB, but it’s looking good. Since we built them from the ground up, we have more control over battery performance.
  • Updated device UI (screenshots to follow)

Zune Software and Zune Marketplace:

We’ve redesigned both the Zune Software and Zune Marketplace from the ground up – check the screenshots below. Here’s what you can find in ZMP this holiday season:

  • Over 3 million tracks
  • Over 1 million DRM-free MP3s that you can play on your Zune or any other digital media player
    Thousands of music videos
  • Over 1,000 free audio and video podcasts
  • For about the price of a CD per month, you can buy a Zune Pass subscription to download whatever music you want for a flat rate.
  • PC to PC send: Zune users can send links imbedded with a song’s metadata from the inbox in their Zune PC software to someone else.  The recipient follows the link to sample, buy or download the song on Zune Marketplace.

Zune Social:

Something I’m really really excited about: we’re launching the Zune Social, an online community beta. It’s a place that gives folks a place to share their music tastes, knowledge and experiences with other folks. It extends the connection from device-device to PC-to-PC. Here are some details:

  • Zune Card: Anyone will be able to create a free, customizable Zune card. You can personalize your Zune Card with your picture, custom backgrounds, biographical info and more. Your card will automatically update with the music you listen to on your Zune or with your Zune software.
  • You can browse your friend’s pages, invite friends, send and receive song recommendations, and post comments to their profile pages.
  • You can browse your favorite artist’s pages to find other listeners with similar musical tastes.
  • Each song within the Zune Social will have a playable 30 second clip, and if you like the song, you can link directly into Zune Marketplace to buy the song (using Microsoft® points or on your Zune Pass). 
  • You can check out Zune Social community-generated charts to see the most-played artists, songs and albums, or read comments and recommendations posted by other Zune community members on album and artist pages.
  • You’ll eventually be able to post your Zune card to mainstream social networking sites  Wherever your Zune card is located, it will automatically update with the music you’re currently playing.   

And we have a new line of accessories – for details on that, check the page on Zune.net.

<Images to follow>

 Ok! Thoughts? Questions? Drop a comment.

 |  Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:40 AM  |  183 Comments

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Paul Colligan

ROCK AND ROLL

Paul

Brad

Yes!!!!

ZUNE 2 - WE HAVE PODCASTS | Zune Luv

perpetualtranze

FIRST!!! When will the firmware update be availablte to us ver. 1 users?

pinksage

Oh I LOVE IT!!!

Woody56292

If it makes you feel any better Cesar, I had faith in you the whole time. I knew you guys would blow us out of the water.

*continues to drool at new features and software.

can't wait for the firmware update.

great job zune team.

-Woody

Sebastianbf

WOW! great news!

Cesar: Do you know if gapless playback will be available in the next firmware? Also I was wondering which lossless codec will be added?

Thanks for the news Cesar

Dgw8022

AWESOME!!!!

Dan D

im so excited right now. im so glad i stayed up to read this. i had my doubts but im hardcore excited right now. the only thing is i hope we dont have to wait until the "holiday season" for these updates. im glad it was finally released though and we the early adopters are'nt getting shanked. now i just cant wait for a date.

Olmy

Cesar, can you confirm whether or not Audible audio books will be supported?

Tom

lol still no wifi music store

Jason Wun

THANK YOU!!!

looking forward for the new firmware

RL

Perfection.......absolute perfection.  Thanks!!! Oh by the way couldn't help but notice that cesarisok was listed as a nearby Zune in the PR and Marketing Shots.

Nelson

A few questions:

- What about the screen resolution on the Zune80?

- Can you detail the new Zune Marketplace?

- What about Zune accessories? Will old accessories be backwards compatible?

- Do we have a confirmed launch date?

- What about Video Sharing over WiFi? Possible?

- Zune Portable Harddrive capabilities?

Sorry to bombard you with questions. Grats on the amazing lineup, you guys have been busy.

Eddie

Will the 30GB Zunes get the whole shell makeover too? It will you keep producing the same ones. You know, like would you start making 30GB Zunes with the touchpad and all?

Manu Narayan

Looking forward to the social side of it as well as the new Zune marketplace software...

Joseph

Finally!!! I can't wait to check out the Zune 8...will we be seeing the Zune 80 in colors as well later on?

Also when will the update be available for the software...you mentioned "holiday season", hope that doesn't mean we wait until December :-)

Thanks for the post, Cesar!

Stu

Great sounding... Audio Books? How about the ability to bookmark?

Eddie

yes, also when will we early adopters get the new firmware?

pocketDragon

First congatulations. Second the questions...

1)Do you have continuous playback...as in no space between tracks?

2) Will the Zune 80 be available in colors other that black initially?

3) Do you still have the double-shot effect?

Harvey / Zunerama

Love it, Cesar. Great job, Zune team!!

segadc

This is incredible news!  Thank you so much Cesar and to the rest of the Zune Team!  

Eddie

Oh yes, sorry for posting to many times.

What happened to the doubleshot? Is that gone now?

Adam K

I am quite excited, to say the least. I'm pre-ordering the first chance I get :)

Toph

Great stuff! And thanks for remembering the early adopters! :)

damien

You all win! Hands down!

Especially for giving the early-adopters ALL (not just some) of the new features, too. That's just a stellar show of commitment to your community!

That's the best I can put it, dude.

*applause*

Jonathan Sundy

I'm not gonna lie, I'm really disappointed that there is no 80gb brown zune.  I hope it comes out before christmas, or no Zune 2 for me :(

I was really hoping for some of the stuff we read about in the patents recently.

But sync'ing tv content with media center is DEFINITELY an aweomse feature!!

Podcasts are nice too, assuming that the selection is similar in size and scope to iTunes.

Looking forward to a side view of the device, as it looks like it's got a metal back from some of the pics, and that makes me nervous as I really liked the aesthetics of the original zune.

The screen on the Zune 80 looks huge, and anyone that compares the iPod touch to the Zune doesn't have a realy quantity of content.  The Zune crushes the iPod when it comes to watching video.

supafreak

Looks like current Zune users won't get the updates until Nov....

http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/holiday2007.htm

Current Zune Users

Current Zune users will be able to upgrade and enjoy the new Zune software and Zune Marketplace on their PCs, plus new firmware for their devices as well. We will notify users in November that their in need of an upgrade.

Nathan

maybe since you didn't let any of the community sites know you guys can hook us up with some of these new zunes to make up for it.

Ben

Great news, Cesar! Thanks for doing this. Linking this for my buddies at RottenTomatoes.com .

RL

Cesar, another quick question. Am I reading the press release correctly, that Zune Pass holders will have unlimited downloads of music videos at no extra charge?

Dan D

NNNOOOOOOO say it aint so. say it aint so. we have to wait until MID NOVEMBER???? its soooo far away. NOOOOOOOOO. i just read it on zune.net that everything will be available when its available to the public in mid-november. im so excited but so dissapointed its so far away. either way thanks zune team for remembering the early adopters. im so glad i might not sleep at all tonight haha

Michael

This is amazing! I knew Zune 2.0 would rock.

I still wish that you could have transitioned Zune Marketplace and Zune management to WMP 11.

But otherwise than that, great job! I can't wait.

***************

Just give us a hint next time, ok? After all, this is Zune "Insider". I expect at least a hint. :)

Kris

It's great that the new Firmware and Zunes were finally announced but... when will the new firmware be available? Seemed really odd to leave that out...

Brandon

I'm glad Microsoft decided to update the first initial release of the Zune (The Zune 30). I'm so excited to be able to use the new software and firmware. I can't wait.....but I have to :( You don't need testers do you?

enemes

This is actually quite nice. VERY impressive, let me correct myself.

I wish some of the social features were implemented in the device itself. This could be pretty powerful.

Also, getting a wireless zunemarketplace along with a built in internet browser would be even killer. You guys solve these two, and you're my total heroes.

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Dan D

"[1] Connect to your home wireless network and sync your Zune with your PC collection using your dock, AC adapter or speaker dock accessory.

"

taken from zune.net.

cesar does this mean we have to have it plugged in to sync? i cant have it sitting on my desk completely unplugged and sync it?

Adam K

Any updates to the flagging process? This was literally my most-used feature, and it'd be great if you guys could flag RDS metadata the same way.

(I'm ordering a Zune 4 and an 80... yes, I'm that excited).

newZUNE2

Is the new Zune software already available for download?

gljvd

Heh . Disapointing. About 6 months of no support of zune 1 and now we are lucky we are getting basic features of the ipod .

Where is the audio bookmarking feature ?

Where is the clock ?

Aside from that  still the 3 play rule ? WHY .Why can't I share  things that are free on the internet with my friends without it having a 3 play limit.

This all feels to little  too late .

Jamie THomson

Zune Card. YES. I asked about a year for the ability to publish our "most listened to" list. Admittedly I asked for it to be published on Live Spaces but a Zune social network is a MUCH better idea.

Mind you, I want more. Will you let me publish my "most listened to" list on Facebook?

great stuff.

-Jamie

Someone

from zune.net

"Current Zune Users

Current Zune users will be able to upgrade and enjoy the new Zune software and Zune Marketplace on their PCs, plus new firmware for their devices as well. We will notify users in November that they're in need of an upgrade."

Woody56292

Zune.net says we have to wait until November for our new firmware. the wait is killing me already! but it is a good wait, a confirmation.

also about the new zunes, why no double shot and why no brown for the zune 4 and zune 8?

Kris

Ah, nevermind. It's on one of the Zune.net pages (which, I must say, is very broken looking):

"Current Zune Users

Current Zune users will be able to upgrade and enjoy the new Zune software and Zune Marketplace on their PCs, plus new firmware for their devices as well. We will notify users in November that they're in need of an upgrade."

November for the firmware upgrade? That sucks. I thought because we were early adopters that we would at least get to check it out early but we still have to wait yet another 1-2 months (depending on if it's released at the end of November)? That's pretty lame.

Don't get me wrong, the new features are great but we've already waited a year with absolutely no word and now we finally get some information... and have to wait a possible 2 more months. I know I sound ungreatful but it was promised to us that we would get new features through firmware updates and then we were ignored for an entire year. One would think you'd have _at least_ something for us to try.

Kris

Yay! Thank You Cesar and the rest of the zune team! Yall really out did yourselves!

Jamie THomson

But no integration with XBox. :(

Shame. You've missed a trick here!

enemes

Man, I love you guys for supporting Zune 1! This is the way it's gotta be!

Sarah

Just wanted to say that Zune is awesome! I can't wait for it to come out with new firmware, and I can't wait to update mine :) One suggestion though - the blog text is a bit hard to read, I think probably a darker shade of grey would work better, easier on the eyes at least. Just one small improvement I thought could be made. Keep up the good work :)  

Spencer Wagner

We have to wait til November?  Oh, come on.  The last two days have been killing me, how am I supposed to wait a whole month?

Jamie THomson

Who cares about a frigging clock? Buy a watch for god's sake!

Curtis18

Thanks for integrating Media Center recordings into the sync the new software.  That will be great.  No need to purchase tv shows, just record and sync.

ZuneMaster

*Pops champaign bottle*, A TOAST TO CESAR AND THE ZUNE TEAM!

Rask

Will it be available in Canada??  (please say yes!)

Malory1

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you Cesar!

Diego

The Zune team is awesome for providing the new features for the 1st gen Zune!

Cesar, I know your still testing battery, but can you confirm that Zune 80 will have better battery life(more than 12hrs audio playback) than the Zune 30?

Jef

So is http://www.zunesocial.net legit?    What is the barcode needed for the logon?

Also this is interesting, since today the ID used for Zune is LiveID.   You might have multiple Zunes using the 1 account (2 zunes allowed) but still it signs into 1 Live account.   Can we delegate the ability to the 2nd live Account for use in the Social network?

Ivan

Very excited to see how your battery tests go!  The whole project looks very exciting and congratulations on the launch.

StreetChariot

I would guess that the firmware will be out November 6th with the new Zunes, seeing as all of the kits and such are being released the same day. Can't really have a new Zune without a car charger, etc.

I can't wait to see what is new. I've been watching the community for a year now, and it looks like Microsoft is really on to something.

As for the November release date, I don't mind (though I'll take it early if you are willing Cesar), it will be released right along side the XBOX 360 Fall Update (or right before / right after) and will give me many new things to check out on both the Zune and 360.

Congratulations on the new line of Zunes. Can't wait! My wife wants a pink 8gb really bad already. :)

Nick

Great news to hear!!!!

How about anything on gapless playback? Kind of gets annoying when hearing that pause when tracks are suppose to flow into each other.

Master Devwi

This is very cool!  I can't wait for the firmware update!

Jason

Okay, so I'm going to ask the first question that popped into my head when I saw this.  Is the Zune still for North America only?

Cody

so u have to have a compatible router and a charger that plugs into the wall to wireless sync?????also will they continue production of 30gb Zune or make new ones like the zune 80????when will we get the FIRMWARE!!!!!is it the day of the launch????ru treating us like new members and like introduce everything at the same time in November??????im glad my b-day is in November!!!!!(November 2nt)AND THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION-----IS THERE A CLOCK NOW!!!!!!-------PLEASE ANSWER!!!!!

zap

Thanks for the update..  What is the story on audible support?

jeff

i'm excited.

any chance video output is greater than 320 by 240?

-jeff

Sporkie16

So now we wait a month..... I almost wish i didnt know.  im pumped, this rocks. i cant wait to get this.

cesar, can you let me know when its ok to put my 30 on ebay?

Great Job!!

JSCools

One word, dude. SWEETDICULOUS.

Some more words; so I've been rocking a Zune 30 all this time and I didn't even know it. Nice to know us OGs are going to be refreshed when the software drops. Also nice to know we'll finally have stuff to show off on those screens. Well done.

Shawn Oster

*grin* it's funny to see what some will make or break some people, having to wait a whole month until the new firmware.  Not saying I wouldn't love it now but it's still funny to see the wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth.

Jamie THomson: I'm assuming the Zune Card will be a Flash, DHTML, or Silverlight widget, all of which you can easily embed in Facebook, so even if there is no "official" Facebook Social app you can still easily pop it in there.

gljvd: Do you do a lot of wifi sharing of your music with people that you've really found the 3 play rule a huge snag?  To be brutally honest if a friend has a track I really want after 3 plays I either just buy it or have them e-mail me the song.

Not sure how useful a clock is in a music player, at least without an alarm.  Otherwise there are these things called watches... :)

I'm most curious about audiobook support now that emusic has started selling DRM-free audiobooks.  At one time I cared about Audible but that was only because they were the only game in town.  Will there be better pause/resume/bookmarking support?

Syncing from a dock makes sense, not sure how much of a drain wifi is on these types of devices but if you do a full sync on 80GB worth of new Media Center recorded TV that has to suck down the juice rather fast.  I'd hope that in time there could first be a sync handshake that would determine just how much data will need to be sync'd and allow a sync if the data is minimal.

Curious about the new software, so far from the screenshots it looks great but I'm curious how it is when not fully maximized.

A social Social network, I have to say that was a long time coming :)  Given the whole "Social" it has to have been a little embarrassing not to actually have a social site, though having worked on one I know it's not easy to just whip one up.

Do I read right that you can browse the Marketplace library *without* having to install the software?  Could be a great hook for people curious if the Marketplace had something iTunes didn't.  I *hate* having to install software just to see if a service has a track I'm looking for.

All in all, great job! Pretty damn exciting.

sporkie16

Cody, stop holding down keys, and the space bar is the big one down at the bottom.

Matt

Is the resolution still the same on videos and coverart?

Brian Hughes

Hey Caesar!

I have two questions

1) I know that the ZuneSocial.net site isn't up yet, but when I tried to register it failed (obviously), but it said you had to be at least 21 to be on the site? Is this true? I'm 19 and that's sort of a bummer if true.

2) Can we have another reader meet-up soon? :)

Eddie

also, will the Zune Software still convert the videos the the Zune screen size or keep the same resolution?

klein234

Awesome... very awesome. Microsoft responding to their customers as always.

Bryan

Everything sounds great. One minor question though: Will the new firmware support a way to set screen rotation to a "left handed mode" so lefties can rotate the device clockwise for pictures and videos? It's not a big deal, but it would definitely be a nice thing to have.

Eric John

Sweet, Way to Go Cesar and Zune Team.  Totally pumped.  This is one way to make Oct go fast over here... can't wait for November. Thumbs up from Fire base Farah!   You  Guys Rock!

Reber

YES YES AND HELLLLL YEA

Jaxim

I forgot one important feature question...

14) Will the new software update allow uou to cross fade your music so it sounds like a radio station - like how Windows Media Player can do?

John in NC

Finally!  Something that is going to make me delete iTunes from my PC forever!  I was so psyched to here about podcast support.  And the simple fact you can sync you Zune wirelessly?  Pure awesomeness.  The only problem I have is I wish it came sooner.

grommet

One big question: Will Zune 2 firmware support gapless audio playback?  For both MP3 and WMA content.  That is one thing I really miss.  (Cross fingers.)

My current disappointment is still the 320 x 240 resolution used for video.  (Paul T. did confirm this in his preview article.)  That's OK for the Zune screen, but it makes Zune's TV output capability less than optimum.  

Jamie THomson

One more thing. How about support for those that don't live in the US. The rest of the world has waited long enough.

Novotex

Any news on when Zune will be released in europe ?

inomine

Zune team, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou. This sounds awesome. As a UK user who imported one of these things last year I'm very happy with what you guys are now bringing out. And while all the good stuff is also coming to Zune v1, I've very tempted to get another Zune imported, what with having a friend over in the US for the launch date. The launch date is the 16th, right?

Jamie THomson

More comment in case you're interested:  

Zune II

http://jamiethomson.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!550F681DAD532637!1903.entry

BeeDay

Jaxim, you should go work for Microsoft.

Your ideas are really great.

Mr. Tangent

*insert the sounds of crickets*

Mark

nice, MS did it, I'll be replacing my zune with a... zune. These new 80s look sweet. One question tho: with all these new firmware updates, can we get a clock? It's not a huge deal, but it is nice to sometimes be able to look at my pmp and see what time it is

James

Impressive work, Zune team. Keep it up.

Sri

Hey Cesar!! didnt c this post before :)

wonderfull post. I'll take back my comment in the previous post ;). that was out of frustration. really excited about the new Zune :).

I really appreciate MS for keeeping silent and building up all the suspence b4 releasing the details :) This will be of gr8 success :)

Ali

Great but please, can we get a time scale on a roll out to other markets....  I'm in Europe here.  UK.

Espiox

Why no clock?

pq

Good, not great..

1) Alarm clock - is it's omission a battery problem, or is this going to be a huge surprise (ahem)

2) Gapless playback

3) No 160?

4) You don't know battery life? If you have more control now, surely this was a key requirement of yours?

5) Doubleshot or not?

The new pad looks absolutely horrible. At least the old old looked lie a speaker. This one looks like a random blob. Ugly, Ugly, Ugly.

BTW, well done re the new software. Although, on Vista, SP1 makes a *huge* difference to the usability of the current version (no freezing when scrolling through large lists etc). Does the new software work seamlessly on Vista?

axys

u rock

cpare

My head is spinning trying to take all this in - Awesome!

High Five!

Parm

Hi Cesar,

I'm sure you get this question asked very frequently and though I'm not up to date on the whole Zune scene, I've had a scan around and couldn't find any info on overseas releases.

I understand that there are no current plans to release Zune anywhere outside of the US but with the new models being announced and so many new features, I wondered if there are any forthcoming plans to bring the Zune to other areas?

I'm in the UK and the 4GB Flash Zune certainly has my interest.

Kind Regards,

Parm

mr, x

This is exactly what I thought would happen:  No real updates to the first gen until new hardware is launched.  It sucks that in order to concentrate on the interface and app re-write you couldn't deliver simple fixes to the original firmware.  What people fail to realize is that many will never make the leap that this update provides. But they otherwise would have used simple improvements to the old software 5 to 8 months ago.  

The 3 plays rule is really unnecessary.  Shawn O. why should you have to have your friend email you the song?  There is no good reason for the restriction.

Mike

this is simply amazing

Aza

Firstly, very cool, keep on truckin.

Given "Developers, Developers, Developers, etc... " Steve Ballmer.

Maybe there's a financial/legal problem here.  But if you can...  Open up Zune to Devs/Hackers, light weight SDK/documentation effort is all I'm suggesting here, nothing so significant that further innovation by the core product team is hampered.

Explicitly state things change, that you're in an aggressive phase of the product's life cycle and info shared isn't likely to be compatible with future models.  That and a strong disclaimer stating hacks/mods are unsupported, hacks at their own risk, etc...

Opening up and providing information that Apple wouldn't have the balls/ovaries to do will win hearts/minds and fuel innovation.

P.S. Hope Zune connectivity/UI s/w has sufficient abstraction layers to partner with CE/WinMob based HTC/Motorolla handsets so we can see some zHTC, zMoto Social 360 xperiences.

Josh's Windows Weblog

Here is a YouTube video of the new interface coming with the updated Zune firmware.&amp;#xA0; I am kinda

Marlow

Release this in Europe and you will sell millions!