Music, culture, and the inside scoop from Cesar Menendez,
a Microsoft employee working on Zune - Microsoft's new music project.

October 25, 2006

Interview: Zune and Design

I've had a few arm-chair designers (and a few professional ones) ask about Zune and design. Curious myself, I sat down with Steve Kaneko: Design Director, Entertainment and Devices Division.

You can find his bio here (scroll down some). Now the interview:

Ok, before I ask you anything, I have to ask the burning question: why brown?

There were many who thought we were crazy when we proposed the brown (“suede” to us staffers) colorway. Why brown? Because love it or hate it, people feel something.  Artists and musicians take chances everyday, and so will we.  What few people haven’t seen yet is that we didn’t stop with just brown, we encased it in an “anti-freeze green” double-shot.  There’s nothing like it out there that resembles the warmth and grittiness of certain styles of music.  It is both formal and informal. And it appeals to men and women. It’s a color that’s both everyday and high fashion at the same time. 

What role did design play in the project?

I think of the Zune culture as design driven.  People here really believe in delighting users, are concerned about aesthetics, and have a holistic view of the brand experience – end to end. Design was there from day one when J Allard and GM Don Coyner decided to jump into this.  Industrial Design had the longest lead time so the ID activity had no choice but to ask the fundamental questions: “who we are and what will we stand for?”

Was there a centralized design team in charge of all design aspects, or did separate teams design those elements?

We got some early concepts from a couple of firms before we had real product constraints or even new what our feature set would be.  These concepts were useful but we ended up designing 90% of the device, in-house.  Our internal designers and engineers have been working with an external firm to design the Zune accessories.

How did design work with the product planning team? How did you agree on the feature set?

Planning was embedded in our process as we designed Zune.  We rely on them for understanding the customer base and to identify who our experiences should be targeted to. Agreeing on the feature set was both complex and easy.  With Zune, smart people from all disciplines got in a room and hammered out what we’ll build this year. If there was any debate – we had a leadership team ready to make a call quickly so we can get on with it.

How important was it to have a unique visual identity?

We think establishing our own viewpoint as a brand, and that is the source for visual differentiation. I think the problem with so many devices (phones and pc’s included) is there are so few philosophically new viewpoints informing design aesthetics.  Everyone is playing in the same sandbox of materials and colors that our customers are drowning in a sea of sameness. It was important to have our own visual identity, if it didn’t compromise doing the right thing for the customer in regards to ergonomics and ease of use.

How did design influence the Zune brand? 

Like all great brands, the Zune brand we’re building is a combination of outside influences and inside influences. We work hand in hand with marketing and see marketing as inseparable from product design and development.

Thanks!

 |  Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:30 PM  |  18 Comments

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Seab

Cool First post. Um what does the design team have to say on how they wil compete with ipod in the coming years?

Rob (Zuney.Net)

Hehe some nice info, will post on my site :) Cheers Cesar Rob Zuney.Net

Sportsunit

Interesting... I'm wondering if the zune's color schemes will make a huge difference to consumers. The actual design of the unit, in terms of the shape and all, seems relatively familiar with nothing really striking about it.

Anonymous

Sweet interview, keep it up Cesar! I love hearing about the various team members, as well as the process of developing the Zune. Anyways...I think I have found the most in-depth Zune video thus far. http://zunecorps.com/?p=64 Enjoy, -Charlie

Brian

Good video post there Charlie. I am still debating getting one of these. I think it will be great but ipod is WAY ahead of them in technology and experience. The only thing that attracts me to this is the FM tuner and wifi.... but no one has said if it is just an 802.11 wifi connection so you can share it over a network or if it is JUST a zune to zune connection.

Rick Lawson

Cesar, Great interview! I've been scouring the page figuring out how to email you. If possible, PLEASE EMAIL ME!!! I would like to talk with you about a few things. Thanks. -Rick

TomT

Speaking of feature set, I hope you will work quickly to expand your Wi-Fi features beyond Zune-to-Zune sharing. (Sirius satellite radio recently announced a radio that uses "Wi-Fi connectivity for listening to live Internet radio whenever you’re in range of a wireless network.")

Woody56292

Yeah, just want to say, I like the black d-pad/wheel and the zune actually looks really sweet now.

Smith

This is a good article talking about Zune Design. I am not so sure that MS did a good prototype/market testing. Cause there are a lot of people out there who dont like the design from the looks of it. There is even a site dedicated to make fun of Zune http://www.zunehumor.com/ Hopefully those folks will talk some sense into MS for a better design for the Next Version/Release of Zune

dave

please tell me the australian zune release date cheers

damien

Hey C, Is there anyplace that we can see a demo of Zune Marketplace?

Vinny

Hi Folks, Please checkout this link, I think Microsoft is infringing E.digital's patent using this multidirectional switch on the front of the new Zune. Cut and paste into your browser: http://www.wipo.int/patentscopedb/en/wads2.jsp?IA=US1995005054&LANGUAGE=EN&ID=id00000000659240&VOL=9004&DOC=003228&PAGE=1&WEEK=46/1995&WO=95/028711&TYPE=A1&TIME=1239123231&DOC_TYPE=PCT Has anyone had contact with MS product design team concerning decisions to use this type of controller? I recently watched Robert Scobelier's interview with Matt Jubelier, and was pretty amazed that the feel, comfortablity, ease of manipulation, etc... were some of the talking points Matt discussed. Just sharing for those Ipod and Zune enthusiasts who like to follow this stuff like me. Cheers

Izzzie

Hi there. I've been one of the fence-sitters on Zune for a while, and I've been checking back to this site a fair bit to see what's going on, and it hit me; there are almost NO girls posting on any of these sites! Ooops... maybe Zune needs to rethink some of it's sex appeal. Or maybe it's just the deadpan marketing guys delivering the insider interviews that turns us off. Also, dave has raised an interesting point - when is the Aussie release date? If I get really annoyed I suppose I could just buy it off Amazon.com, but it'd be nice to have a support network set up in Aussie first. Something like the Apple Stores that seem to have sprung up on every corner here. Thanks for all the information - it's certainly keeping me interested! Izzzie.

juice

"there are so few philosophically new viewpoints informing design aesthetics." great interview.

Vinny

I am sorry to say just a little disappointed with this forum. Are we not at a Zune development blog? I post a significant issue that strikes at the heart of Zune development and no one seems interested. Here’s another interesting piece I found, I would be interested if someone who is familiar with development of Zune to comment, the could be big news if picked up by a enterprising journalist. Getting back to E.digital, Atul Anandpura was their CEO in 2005. If you review the application link below you will find several instances where claimed inventive technology is oddly exactly the same as the Zune’s new capabilities with regard to digital media transfer, storage, encryption, and real time clock management thru wireless 802.11. Examples follow: “A real time clock operatively connected to the multimedia device can be used to determine the length of time that a digital media file is stored on the digital storage medium.” “A digital media storage system as in claim 1, further comprising a real time clock operatively connected to the media processor, the real time clock configured to enable the media processor to disable specific digital media files stored on the digital storage medium after a predetermined amount of time.” “A digital media storage system as in claim 13, wherein one or more specific digital media files are deleted from the digital storage medium after the predetermined amount of time has passed.” “A method as in claim 15, wherein the step of using a real time clock further comprising the step of using a real time clock operatively connected to the multimedia device, wherein the media processor is configured to disable access to specific digital media files after they have been stored on the digital storage medium for a predetermined amount of time.” “In another embodiment, digital media files from the media source can be transmitted wirelessly to the multimedia device. A wireless format such as the IEEE 802.11 wi-fi specification can be used. Other wireless formats such as Bluetooth, Zigbee, or Ultrawideband, as described in the IEEE 802.15 specification, can also be used to wirelessly transmit digital media files to the multimedia device. The wireless format can include encryption to enable the transmission to be secure such that the digital media files cannot be easily intercepted by unintended users.” “In the present invention, a predetermined file format can be used to store the digital media content. The predetermined file format can be configured to be incompatible with the file for mats used by major computer operating systems, such as Windows, Linux, Unix, and Apple's operating system. The predetermined file format can allow digital media content to be saved on the digital storage medium 114 without allowing easy access to the digital storage medium by external devices controlled by these operating systems. Since the predetermined file format is not compatible with the storage format used by these operating systems, the digital media files stored on the digital storage medium can be substantially secure.” (Research E.digital’s MicroOS and Forth language history) “This assurance can encourage more digital media content providers to allow their products to be transmitted digitally, thus providing a new market for providers to sell their content.” (Zune’s social network, and the hook for the media industry) “The media processor can be configured to disable specific media content stored on the digital storage medium according to the predetermined amount of time. For example, a media content provider may allow a song to be downloaded for one week. One week after the song has been downloaded the media processor can either disable the song from being played, or optionally delete the song from the digital storage medium. In another embodiment, a media content provider can allow a media file to be downloaded and played a predetermined number of times. The media content provider may allow a media file to be downloaded and played for a predetermined time or for a set number of times when a proper authentication code is not received from the multimedia device. If a propel authentication code is received, the media file may be allowed to be played for a longer duration, or even indefinitely.” http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=Anandpura.IN.&OS=IN/Anandpura&RS=IN/Anandpura Those skilled in the art, please enjoy.

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